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02 May 2009

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Rob

Discovery has a channel they call "Green". The "Green" channel keeps commenting on how many birds feral cats kill. In my tiny brain I think that encourages the killing of feral cats. I'd like to know how many birds human housing projects kill.

YesBiscuit!

"Accept the assumption many people feed stray cats out of compassion. They are scofflaws. Adversaries. Based on this paradigm, we punish, not embrace the public. Adversaries with most compassionate members of the public. And we punish the animals too."



This is so *it*. I wish we could broadcast this to every legislator, shelter, pet owner, pet hater, etc.

YesBiscuit!

"Only 0.01 percent of animals in city are assisted with s/n. But officers are going door to door, only in poor neighborhoods. They don’t say, we’ll give you free or low cost speuter — they give voucher for $30 off full price at private vets. “But if you don’t want a citation, or miss work to go to court, give us the animal and the whole thing goes away.”"



Evil.

Imagine if they offered low/no cost neuter, how many people would jump at the chance? The general pet owning public is so often dismissed as wholly irresponsible because of a minority of people who need education and/or a few "bad apples". If we could treat pet owners as individuals, imagine the advances that could be made by helping where needed.

Terry Albert

Well said, even in shorthand! I have always been frustrated with shelters who claim they don't kill adoptable animals, but when a dog gets kennel cough, he is no longer "adoptable" so he doesn't go into the kill stats. The dog came in healthy.



I agree: no more smoke and mirrors, let's make criteria for euthanasia specific.



It's hard to imagine that shelter employees get into a "kill" mode, but I've seen it happen. They feel they are protecting the animals from a bad or uncertain future. The whole mindset is tragic.



Shelter employees see so many neglected animals and bad owners, it begins to affect how they deal with the public. It's a tough job.

mikken

Can it be done Christie, do you think? Legally mandated?

LauraS

Christie, could you please pass the word to Nathan: Santa Cruz County is NOT an outlier and they have NOT had a 50-60 percent decline in shelter intakes since MSN went into effect there.



The charts below show what really happened in Santa Cruz Couty according to the data that they submitted to the state, compared to the BIG LIE that MSN supporters have been peddling for two years.



Dogs

http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/SC%20Big%20Lie%20dogs.pdf



Cats

http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/SC%20Big%20Lie%20cats.pdf



Santa Cruz County has worse per capita shelter statistics than nearby counties such as Alameda, Contra Costa, and Santa Clara that do not have MSN.



Why are MSN supporters' claims based on totally fabricated Santa Cruz "data" still being repeated? We pointed this out on the blogs, email lists, state senate, and state assembly nearly 2 years ago.



MSN is a failure in Santa Cruz County.

Christie Keith

Hi there, Laura! I will send that to Nathan and insert a note into the liveblog. I agree with you; bad info gets out, and then keeps spreading. I don't think too much while I liveblog, because of the obvious situational issues, but this is one I with I'd noted as I typed, because I was aware of it. He talks very fast -- very challenging to liveblog!



My suspicion is that Nathan DOES know that, and probably meant to say "EVEN IF" Santa Cruz were an outlier -- but again, I'll be sure he sees this! Thanks...

LauraS

Thanks Christie :-)

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