There's a heated exchange going on in the comments section right now, mostly about the rehoming of Ellen DeGeneres' and Portia de Rossi's dog Iggy, and the subsequent reclaiming of the dog by a rescue group.
None of us really knows the details of that case beyond what we've seen on TV, and considering the quality of TV news these days, I'm not overly invested in the veracity of the story I've pieced together.
But whatever the facts of this incident, the issues it raises are important and troubling. They have to do with a dangerous pattern of demonization of pet owners and people who want to bring animals into their families as companions. With the pervasiveness of scorn, suspicion, and negativity, and a culture not of learning to cope with the stress of rescue and shelter work, but of feeding the fires of bitterness with more and more vitriol and judgment.
That's why so many rescue groups have such rigid screening processes that almost no one but the people running the rescue themselves will quality for a pet. It's why so many people come to Gina and me, bewildered as to why they were turned down at their local shelter when they tried to adopt an animal.
In one comment, a poster said:
Anyone who abandons a dog (especially for the lame reason given by Ms. Degeneres) is probably the single worst person to select a new home. “A dog is for life.” Anyone who can’t live by that simple truth should never be in the position of determining what is, and isn’t, a good potential home for a dog. It’s like having the pedophilic father decide who gets to adopt his kids.
Who gives a damn if a dog or cat isn’t happy in one home and can be happy somewhere else, and their person facilitates that? I’ve taken in a number of dogs and cats as rescues who lived with me while I found them a new home. I treated them just like my own dogs or cats, and they certainly had no idea it was a foster situation instead of a forever home. How is that different from rehoming an animal who isn't happy in your family, due to factors that are specific to your family?
I have also let two dogs and one cat I intended to keep forever go to new homes when they were unhappy with me. The cat simply hated all my other cats, despite my doing everything I could do to get her used to them, and I eventually placed her with my vet’s receptionist. I considered this to be the responsible, kind, sensible, and ethical thing to do. I did not abandon her.
One of the dogs did not like being with my “pack,” either. He was kind of depressed all the time. A friend of mine’s dog died, and I met her at the beach so my dogs could play with her surviving younger dog. My dog and hers got along beautifully, and after a trial period, we decided that Rebel would be much happier being one of two dogs with my friend than living with me and the pack.
And he was. And when her child became extremely ill and their older dog developed a health problem that made his temperament unreliable, I brought Rebel back to me. By then I had far fewer dogs and Rebel settled in this time quite well.
The second dog was my beloved Lita, who my also-beloved dog Scarlett simply would not accept, ever. Eventually I found her, too, a wonderful, loving home with a woman in the next town. We met at the beach many times for doggy play dates, and Lita was blissfully happy for the rest of her life. That photo? It's her first Christmas with her new family.
So to the contention that anyone who realizes a dog or cat might be happier in a different family and makes that happen in a responsible way has “abandoned” their dog I say, nonsense. Loving a pet enough to make sure they’re happy a good thing, not a bad thing.
The same comment includes this statement:
Short of hoarding all these animals ourselves, home checks, interviews, reference checks, and legal responsibilities, are the best we can do for those animals. It’s not perfect, but it’s a step in the right direction. It’s much better than just trusting that someone will provide a resonsible, loving home for a dog.
What proof is there that these obsessively controlling placement strategies result in more permanent and appropriate homes than a careful but less rigid screening process? Cite me some cites. Show me something, anything, indicating that this works.
How about a cite for this:
The reason shelters and rescue groups exist is because 60-80% of dogs are abandoned by owners who claim they love their dogs, and have provided a good home for them.
Can someone break down that rehoming statistic? What does it include, exactly? Every litter born on earth where the puppies or kittens aren’t kept by the owner or fosterer of the mother? Where does that statistic come from? Because I want to understand it.
Over the last 20, 25 years, the number of dogs and cats being killed in shelters has dropped from 23 million to less than 4 million. The number of dogs and cats adopted from shelters rose from 17 percent to 23 percent. In my interview with Rich Avanzino yesterday, he pointed out that simply bumping that up to 25 percent would cover the number of dogs killed for population control in American shelters. And yet the doom and gloom and demonization of American pet owners continues and is even on the rise.
If the pet food recall and Hurricane Katrina taught me anything, it’s that Americans do in fact really love animals and consider them family members. As a pet writer I’m sick and tired of harping on irresponsible pet owners and bad pet owners, when all I have to do is live my own life for one day and realize that I’m surrounded by loving, caring pet owners of varying degrees of knowledge and skill at dealing with dogs and cats.
Sure, there are a few jerks — there are also a few jerks out there driving cars, and I’m also really not too happy at the way the guy who bagged my groceries did it last week. But I’m not out there talking about how 80 percent of all drivers or grocery clerks are bad, evil, and irresponsible.
And instead we fill up our shelters with dogs and cats and whine about the bad pet owners. We complain bitterly to anyone who will listen about how we’re forced to rescue and rehome and yes, even kill animals all because of the badness of people. Then we come up with these ever-more-controlling contracts, and we start saying things like it would be better if we "hoarded all these animals ourseleves." And the work never ends and there are never enough homes.
And every year we get more bitter and scornful about the way people care for their pets, and in the meantime, perfectly good homes are lost because of arbitrary, control-freak rules and exclusions. One local shelter won’t adopt to a family where anyone in the household even owns a pickup truck. They also won’t place a cat in a home where no one is home all day. And this is a kill shelter.
I don’t think the irresponsible, uncaring people responsible for full shelters and killing for population control are the ones out there in their homes trying to find a rescue group that will adopt to them.
I think a lot of them are in the shelters and rescue groups, and are so busy screening out the bad evildoers trying to adopt from them that they’ve completely lost touch with reality.
There are lots of good homes that shelters and rescues don’t think are “good enough.” But it’s punitive and controlling. It does not save animal lives nor increase animal well-being. It hurts animals.
And I’m sick of it and I’m not perpetuating it anymore.
Update from Gina, 10/20: Pet Connection team blogger Kim Campbell Thornton looks at the sometimes tense intersection between pet-seekers and rescue groups in an article for MSNBC.com.
Judi, prices from breeders and rescues vary widely from area to area, and even sometimes from person to person.
Posted by: The OTHER Pat | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Hey Julie - last I checked, the price for a Doberman from a breeder was around 1200.00 - 2000.00 and the rescues around me are 400.00 for a Dobe.
Posted by: Judi | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
It's not the "people" or the "public" or the "rescue group" or "shelter". It is all about what is best for the animal. That's it... not rocket science. A dog or cat sitting in a shelter or in a foster home becoming more depressed by the day is better served in a good home that staying another week, month, year waiting for the ideal home.
Posted by: Moira | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
An article about how some of the different organizations out there handle this:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20071019-9999-1m19rescues.html
Posted by: The OTHER Pat | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Julie, actually, a Responsible Breeder will also include a takeback clause in the contract you sign when you buy a dog from them.
When used correctly, the takeback clause is a safety net for the dog, not an ongoing threat to hold over the head of the adopter.
Posted by: The OTHER Pat | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Petfinder's statement about the M&M debacle includes this: "Research, however, suggests that there is no difference in the success rates of the adoptions between organizations that screen heavily versus those that have more open adoption policies."
http://www.petfinder.com/statement.html
So late last night, I started a new topic on the Petfinder forum. I pasted the above quote, and asked a few simple questions... Who did this research? Is it published somewhere? If so, can someone please point me to it?
That's it.
I expected to check back this morning to see some lively discussion. Instead, I see that the Admin deleted the entire topic. There is no email or message explaining this action.
Posted by: Laura | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Laura ... WOW.
As we say here (all the time), show us the science or shut the eff up.
Instead, they decided to shut you up. Hmmm.
Posted by: Gina Spadafori | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
I know that working in adoptions for a shelter with a municipal contract did put me in the position of making what I thought were "questionable" placements sometimes *because* we were trying so hard to get the animals out the door before the next animal control truck pulled up. I don't think they were irresponsible decisions, but it's difficult to know (especially with a budget/staff that did not allow the luxury of home visits). The list of "zero-tolerance" things we flat denied anyone on was very short. Sometimes this seemed a blessing, and other times a curse.
But at the same time, being on the foster and adopter end of the shelter relationship made it evident just how easy it is to make a "bad" placement. We adopted a dog who got on well with us and the rest of the pack, we went through a home check, but the dog was miserable with us! She bayed and whined, destroyed everything, and was often sullen. She went back to her foster family (who missed her terribly) and was happy as a clam. We were/are a great home, but not the *right* home.
Unfortunately when working in a shelter situation it's difficult to keep in mind the difference. You want any "good" home to stick and you never want another animal to go to a "bad" home. But you can get jaded and forget that "good" and "bad" need to be taken in the context of the life you're trying to improve. The life of the animal.
Posted by: nydia | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
I believe the intent - at least where I live - is for the adopted family to return the pet to the agency if it doesn't work out rather than just abandoning the pet as so many people do. Seems that a middle ground should be found. Can believe rescue people are bitter after hearing all the stories and idiotic reasons for giving up a pet.
I adopted a little cat from a local humane society a few years ago, and she immediately developed severe health problems. I did call the group to let them know that she was unhealthy (they spayed her even though she had an ongoing upper respiratory problem)and was immediately subjected to a diatribe about how they couldn't afford to take her back, etc. Well, that wasn't my intent - just wanted to inform them that spaying a young kitten who was already ill was not a smart thing to do. Will never contribute to them again - there are too many good humane groups out there!
Bottom line is that good owners shouldn't be punished. However, there are many places to get a rescue without jumping through all these hoops.
Posted by: Carol | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Maybe all the good folks here could email the Ellen DeGeneres show respectfully suggesting she learn about Nathan Winograd's No Kill Movement with the objective of having him on her show. And/or suggesting she do a show about the value of rescue when all parties involved behave responsibly and in the best interest of the dog (worded a little more gently, of course - she's probably still feeling pretty emotional about this whole situation).
Here's the website to email her:
http://ellen.warnerbros.com/show/dearellen/
Posted by: The OTHER Pat | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
It seems that Nathan Winograd has found the heart of the problem - as far as too many shelters and rescues are concerned, the "public" is the problem. But "people" are the solution!
Some rescues know this. More need to figure it out. An "ideal" home may never happen. But "good" homes are out there to be had and should be taken advantage of.
Posted by: Mikken | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Great post, Christie!
Posted by: The OTHER Pat | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Rescues, like municipal kill shelters, have missions which are in fundamental conflict. And their work is made more difficult by the fact that their product - "used" animals - can be obtained at little or no cost, especially in the case of mixed breeds.
Me - I come way down on the side of "Mooove 'em out! Get those furballs in homes STAT!". But I'm not in rescue, and probably won't ever be, and it is not a job I covet. I sympathise with animal welfare workers, while simultaneously feeling frustration with some of them.
Perhaps good things will come out of this Ellen brouhaha. Fresh ideas, energy, focus, cold hard cash....
Posted by: Bee | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
You know, someone in one of the threads suggested that Ellen should have Nathan Winograd appear on her show. Surely between Christie and Gina and their contacts, such a thing could be arranged . . . . .
Posted by: The OTHER Pat | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Go, Christie!
I'm so grateful my dog came from a reasonable adoption group that found my home "perfectly good".
Posted by: kb | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
You go Christie!!!! If people would just use some common sense half this bs would not be happening.
If you take Ellen out of the picture and just go with the rest of the story - that rescue shot themselves in the foot by the way they handled the whole thing. They should have done a complete home check. If they found something wrong - at least they would have done their due diligence and had 'proof' to stand behind. Now they just look like rescue nazis and people will be afraid to adopt from them. Btw - I hope neither of the principles have children under 14 !!! Otherwise, they could not foster the dogs in their own homes now could they?
Posted by: Cheryl | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
You know, M&M could STILL turn this around. They could complete the home check on Ellen's hairdresser (I'm presuming here she'd pass a reasonable inspection). place Iggy there, and then go on Ellen's show where everyone would kiss and make up and discuss the need for rescue, for reasonable home screening standards, and why takeback clauses can be such a wonderful safety nets for dogs.
I can dream, can't I . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Posted by: The OTHER Pat | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
A lot of people who adopt pets from rescue groups do not read the contract they sign that says they will return the animal to the group if they are unable to keep it.They pay an adoption fee which is almost the same that it would cost to buy an animal from a breeder.In essence,this animal is never really theirs.These animals are chipped and at any time could be returned to the group if they determine it is not being cared for properly. very unlikely but possible.
Posted by: Julie | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Comment by The OTHER Pat — October 18, 2007 @ 8:15 pm
"I can dream, can’t I . . . . . . . . . . . . ."
Your scenario would be the way intelligent, reasonable, responsible and mature people would end this saga. That certainly would set a positive example by all involved, demonstrating how much all truly do consider the best interests of the dog as a priority. At the same, it is a golden opportunity to educate the public about responsible pet ownership leading to a no-kill nation status.
Earlier I suggested that Ellen could be a wonderful spokesperson for this effort, using her television show as a starting point to get the ball rolling.
You are not dreaming, Other Pat. I see an open door. Wide open.
Posted by: Nadine L. | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Here here, Pat. (Or is it "hear, hear"?)
Posted by: Liz | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Well said Christie! I was thinking the same things, but you put it into words.
I've been lurking on Petfinder, reading the 50 pages (and growing) of posts on the Ellen story. I've come away feeling that a lot of rescue volunteers (not all, of course) are quite bitter about their fellow human beings, and have a dark and warped view of reality.
OTHER Pat, that's a great idea to get Nathan Winograd on Ellen's show. He is very articulate, and makes a convincing case.
Posted by: Laura | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Here here, Pat. (Or is it “hear, hear”?)
Comment by Liz — October 18, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
If we're being picky, it's "hear, hear", but I'm posting this because I want to second that! And Bravo! to Christie.
Posted by: Lis | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Comment by Jessica — October 18, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
i've heard that also, but who knows where iggy really is with all the stuff going on :(
if they do an adoption show, i sure hope they show the link to LA city/county shelters and people can see how many pets are available. and yes, they have small fuzzy young ones too. also, kern county shelter has many small young pups and it's not THAT far of a hike from LA. in some cases it may be easier to drive there than to cross LA to a shelter!
the pet harbor link needs to get out there along with petfinder.
Posted by: straybaby | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
I hate to burst the bubble (because I think that would have been a great ending as well), but I thought the dog had already been placed in a new home. I do think, regardless, Ellen should consider an adoption education show.
Posted by: Jessica | 18 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
I volunteer for a 501(c)(3) breed rescue. my husband is the treasurer. Some of us joke that it is a matter of "flip that dog" after the TV show about real estate and getting distressed properties turned around and sold, quick.
It's a bit light hearted but we don't mean that they should just get tossed off to the first person willing to adopt.. What it means is that a basically healthy dog without significant behaivioral or training issues should not spend alot of time in rescue if we have prescreened homes waiting to adopt.
We unfortunately get plenty of sick, injured or behaviorally or emotionally challenged dogs in who will need a long term stay in foster care. The essentially healthy happy dog who comes in does not need to take up that space for long. Nor does he need to go through bonding with a rescuer only to be separated again, not when there is a qualified, decent person or persons wanting him.
Posted by: Jennifer J | 19 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
I've done rescue for seven years. I'm picky in choosing the homes I place my dogs in, yet flexible. The only hard and fast reason I have for denying people is not giving heartworm preventative. Everything else is taken on a case by case basis. I've only had two dogs returned, one of which is my own Aussie because the resident Shih Tzu of his adoptive home picked on him. He was returned for the safety of the smaller dog. I've noticed that some of my colleagues with a list of rules have had many more dogs returned than I have.
Posted by: Tracy | 20 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Laura,
I'd really be interested in the stats, too. I just HATE it when someone posts that "studies have shown" and then cites no references to support. Not credible at all.
Posted by: Lynn | 20 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Comment by Erin — October 21, 2007 @ 1:45 am
"But it’s sad to think that the people who are turned away will usually just buy from a breeder anyway."
Not a problem if they buy from a Responsible Breeder, of course. But sad if it drives them to buy from one who does not merit that title.
Posted by: The OTHER Pat | 20 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Thank you for this great post! I've heard various stories about people turned down to get a shelter dog. I was also 'rejected'. For awhile it made me worry that I WASN'T providing a good enough home for my dogs. But now I realize that everyone has a different idea of the 'perfect' way to raise a dog, just like a child. But it's sad to think that the people who are turned away will usually just buy from a breeder anyway. I think the most important attribute of a home for a shelter dog is someone who will love them and care for them. What else is there?
Posted by: Erin | 20 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Ah, but there's the rub. Definitions of what constitutes "maltreatment" vary widely. And in some people's minds, the definition includes a LOT of things that don't necessarily seem very realistic (like leaving a dog at home while you go to your 9-to-5 job as just one example).
Posted by: The OTHER Pat | 21 October 2007 at 08:00 PM
Unless there is evidence of abuse or potential mal treatment every dog (and I guess kitties too) deserve a home over death.
And thats all I have to say about that...
Posted by: Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski | 21 October 2007 at 08:00 PM